When the Law Defies Common Sense: Why Selling Elk Meat Is Illegal in Oregon
Hey, it's Earnest Mann, and today I’m tackling one of the most mind-numbing, hypocritical, and insanely arbitrary laws I’ve come across right here in Oregon — the prohibition on selling elk meat, even if you lawfully hunted it on your own land. This isn’t just about hunting; this is about how blind obedience, conformity, and government overreach quietly chip away at our freedom and basic human decency.
Elk Meat, Starving Families, and the Hypocrisy of the Law
Imagine this: you legally hunt an elk on your property, and your family — maybe your own children — are hungry. They offer to buy some meat from you, but the state says no. That’s illegal. Why? Because it’s not taxable. That’s the core of it. If the government can’t get a cut, it suddenly becomes a crime. This law defies logic, morality, and the very notion of private property.
The Real Cost of Obeying Without Thinking
I explore how these ridiculous regulations are just one example of a broader problem: the arbitrary nature of law. Most people won’t challenge it. They shrug and go along with it, even when it means letting others suffer. And that’s where the danger lies — in conformity, passivity, and blind trust in those who make the rules.
From HOAs to Hunting: A System Designed to Control
Whether it’s what color you can paint your house or what you can do with meat from an animal on your land, the system thrives on control, not logic. I share an interaction that sparked this rant — a guy who refused to sell elk meat because it’s “against the law.” That moment, that blind obedience, is what inspired this episode.
Hard Times Demand Humanity, Not Compliance
These are hard times, and if someone is hungry, I'm feeding them. That’s how this country used to operate — neighbors helping neighbors, not tiptoeing around ridiculous laws written to benefit the state. If we're going to survive and thrive, we need less red tape and more compassion, common sense, and courage to question.
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If the government told you that if you
didn't hurl yourself off a cliff or
refused to feed your family when they
were starving that you could be
arrested, would you obey that? Well,
apparently it seems that many would.
Hello, my name's Ernest. Thank you for
tuning in.
Today I encountered something.
I'm telling you, I I encountered
something so incredibly unbelievably
stupid,
I wanted to share it with you. So that's
what this is going to be about
because
there are laws and well there are laws.
Now generally speaking I am of the
opinion that um we should have laws and
all laws aren't bad. Um,
for instance, um, there can be, you
know, say if you had a disagreement with
your neighbor or whatnot or what have
you, and you know, you you sincerely
because they're a such a complete
unmitigated um, idiot, you feel like
killing them, but yeah, you probably
shouldn't. Um, I'm not saying that's the
case with all idiots.
But I'm saying in general, yeah, we we
shouldn't go around killing each other.
But having said that,
there are a hell of a lot of laws that
are patently stupid, and
this is one of them. Um and often times
here's the thing that we look at
something that's a law and we can look
at it you know collectively
I mean because after the fact you know
it is a lot easier to analyze things
when we have a actually have a chance to
think about them and um you know so we
don't want to you know do anything in
the heat of the moment But yeah, that is
the case that I think that collectively
as citizens we should have that
opportunity to reverse laws that for
lack of a better description are just
plain [ __ ] stupid. And here's one of
them.
A lot of people um for all I know, I
can't speak for other states. I can only
speak of here in Oregon,
but this is something that I was so
dumbruck by um that um well, I'll I'll
just lay it out there to you. Um, it
concerns game
and what comes from game, but meat,
edible meat,
and um, apparently
for whatever reason, I don't know if
it's just elk or if it's certain other
game big game animals as well, but um,
you can get a hunting license and you
can go out and hunt them fine. And
apparently you could use them for
yourself. Fine,
but you can't sell it.
I don't know about giving it away, but
you can't sell it.
Now,
um there's this is problematic on
multiple levels, but here's here's what
I'm going to go into first. Um,
so if you have friends, family members,
and they are in need of that elk meat,
for instance, even if they offer to buy
it, you can't sell it cuz it's illegal.
And I'm going to tell you, I don't give
a damn about all the hogwash that
they're going to talk about this. And
for all I know, this, as I said, this
could exist in many other states. I I
don't know until you talk to me. I don't
know. And if you're somewhere else in
the world, I would be really interested
in hearing about how if if these same
kind of laws exist in other places, you
know, such as I don't know the in Europe
or, you know, what have you.
But um at least to me in here, it's it's
it's beyond stupid. And here's the
thing.
when you often times what most people
they just look at each other and they
they shrug and they shake their heads
and that wow it's just unbelievably
stupid but actually if you knew the real
reasons behind it and I feel that I do
know at least one of the major real
reasons why a certain thing for instance
like in selling elk me from a [ __ ]
elk that you shot on your property and
you should by any common sense measure
be able to do what it whatever the hell
you please
within reason.
But apparently no. And my uh my uh
thought on that is pure and simple. It's
a it's a criminal mob thing. It's not
taxable in practical terms. It's just
realistically it's not taxable.
And so like just about anything else in
America, if the government, the mob so
to speak, if they don't get their cut
out of something, then it's illegal.
Do do you do you see the hypocrisy here?
As soon as it is taxable, hey, go ahead.
We're getting we're stealing our cut out
of what is should be your property which
should be yours. I mean after all that
is the point. Well, no it's not because
getting hunting license is actually to
generate again through taxation more
revenue for the state. So that's another
form of thievery when it's on your land
to be able to hunt what is on your land.
But
setting even that aside for the moment,
I mean, if you had if you if you were a
person family, if you want to call them
that, I have other names. Uh something
uh pleasant, I'd call them [ __ ] I
don't know, cretins, let's say.
And you you wouldn't even feed your
family.
You wouldn't even feed your family. It's
that bad. Can you picture this? Picture
this scenario. So your son or daughter
and their family, you know, they're on
hard times and uh meat's expensive and
maybe they don't live there. Maybe they
live in the city, maybe, you know,
whatever, relatively nearby, but they're
on hard times. you know, they're having
hard times and you know, uh, dad or
whatever killed this elk and they, yeah,
they could use the meat because that's
the way we lived in this country for
centuries.
But can you imagine a father, mother,
whoever, or brother having this kind of
conversation?
Well, yeah. I'm sorry, sis, and
everything. I mean, I know y'all are
starved to death. You got a couple of
youngans and all, but I'd love to give
you this help, but I can't do it cuz
government says it's illegal. So, I
don't know. I don't know what y'all
going to do, and I I'd love to do it for
you, but I don't want to go to jail or
nothing. So, I can't give you no elf
meat. Sorry.
Now, if if that doesn't just strike you
as completely, totally, and utterly
[ __ ] idiotic, cruel,
whatever you want to attach to it,
that apparently the people involved on
this, the people that agreed to this,
because somewhere along the line,
however far back you want to go, some
group of bozos or somebody who didn't
care enough to examine the laws of other
state,
you know, collectively agreed to this.
This is the reason why I've said
repeatedly
laws by and large are arbitrary.
They're arbitrary by definition. And so
if you want to just live your life, I'm
saying you, not you personally, I'm
collectively people.
And if they want to live their life
where they have they put everything onto
this other group of representatives,
well, you'll probably going to stand a
chance that the only thing those
representatives end up doing over time
is they're damn good at representing
themselves,
their interest. And so if you just don't
do anything and then these laws start
affecting your life and then then after
the fact as though it was a complete
mystery to them, they turn around say,
"What the hell? What do you mean? I
can't get Yes, sir. We You allowed us to
pass that law that was 3, five years
ago." Oh, what the hell? I don't
understand.
to be.
And this is what I mean. This is what
I've been talking about forever.
When you don't participate in things
actively, you just say, "Well, I'm too
damn lazy, crazy, or stupid or whatever.
I ain't got time to him and I don't
worry about this law and that. I'll just
trust them."
And then you end up with [ __ ] like this
or
things like, and there's a million
examples, but just say another one that
many of you are familiar with is uh the
the crazy crazy of HOAs.
And if you want to paint your house,
screw you.
And say you want to paint your house,
just say you do. Paint your house
purple. Paint your house chartreuse.
Nope. it's been by the laws or
regulations if you will of a particular
HOA, you will paint it within a certain
set parameters of colors and shades in
compliance with the HOA.
All of this that I'm talking about
though the overarching problem here,
this is the bigger crux of the issues.
the issues that I'm talking about with,
you know, the HOA and this simple thing
of what the hell you can do with, you
know, the meat from an animal that you
paid a license for to shoot and kill as
your bounty. Your meaning possess it,
meaning yours as in again within reason,
you should be able to do with it what
the hell you please.
That is the tenant of property.
But but
apparently people either I don't know
don't understand or don't care about
this.
I do. But I'm just saying I'm shocked
that the response that I got back from
this person
at my uh one of my local watering holes
and I I I knew them. I knew this couple.
I've known him for two, three years at
least, you know, and very superficial
pleasant trees and whatnot. But, you
know, I was feeling the water and I
overheard the guy when they were eating
at a table not far from me and he was
talking about there was going out
hunting and whatnot. And when he
finished his call, you know, very
lightheartedly, I said, "Hey, when you
get that elk, let me know. I'll I'll buy
some of that meat from you." And then he
immediately piped in and said, "Oh, no.
I can't do that. It's against the law."
And there you go.
This is what happens
to blind, unthinking
obedience
to laws.
And that's what pisses me off so much.
Then when all the things that eventually
follow from this from as a consequence
of blind obedience to laws,
you inevitably end up with uh well
really bad things and a lot of trouble.
I think we learned that from 1940s
Germany
when um you know just you know just I
don't know it was 10 years before that
[ __ ] happened that people were
considered relatively normal
and then the next thing you know the
vast majority are conditioned
to blindly follow propaganda and Then
laws
and this is the inherent problem
that no one
apparently individually, collectively or
whatnot, no one will think about the
implications
of laws
and that um you know how it's bad.
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Anyway, um I was so stupified by this
that this is generally speaking a lot of
these people and here's the irony again.
Here is yet another irony that in this
area
um with many of these folks,
they're supposed to be or think of
themselves
as conservative.
Well, they may be conservative, they may
not, but I can tell you one thing is
sure as [ __ ] in taxes, they are
absolutely conformist.
And conformity
is u it's a bad thing.
It's unthinking. Conformity is what
eventually gets your ass in a lot of
trouble when you're doing a lot less,
you know, thinking
about anything and just blindly
following quote unquote the law. Well,
he can't do that cuz they say there's a
law where there's a hell hell of a lot
of laws.
Vast majority of them, they can call
them laws. Vast majority of them are
actually mechanisms of control
designed for those
who do the controlling.
There's a lot of people out there, I
guess, that haven't thought this
through,
but I have. And I don't know if you'll
agree with me or not, but I wanted to
share this with you because just the the
implications of this, especially
today, especially
as you know, hard times
um as we're in today.
And I, you know, I'm just saying all
things being reversed, if I had my own
land and my own property,
I wouldn't give a rat's ass what they
said whatsoever. If my family,
friends, or whoever the hell I chose.
These are hard times. If people are
hungry, I'm going to feed them.
I'm going to keep enough of course for
you know myself and my family but
anything I got left over if they need it
if they you know if they can't pay me
fine whatever
because that's the bedrock of the way
this country used to operate you know 75
100 years ago
when we were less controlled
less
digitized and
well our humanity was not perfect but um
in my opinion it was
well much closer to being human.
So
at any rate I just wanted to share that
with you. So
until next time, this is Ernest and
that's all I've got for today.
